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posted 5/5/2010 4:57:53 AM 
Does anyone have any first-hand oral history of 12th ARMORED actions at Herrlisheim ? I am of the familie Bachmann aus Deutschland. I have wargamed this engagement through STEEL PANTHERS winSPWWII and it appears 12th ARMORED flanks were undefended. Is that true ?
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Ken Klinedinst
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From: New Hampshire
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posted 5/6/2010 7:02:06 AM   
Look at the left side of your screen. You will see a book spine, scroll down to "Oral History Videos" view the 56th AIB, 17th, 23Rd to start.
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MikeWoldenberg
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posted 5/6/2010 6:01:57 PM
Dear Sir: I would like to add to Ken Klinedinst's comment.
Listen to Oral histories from the 66th Armored Infantry Battalion. Frankly, there are so many hours of Oral Histories that it will be difficult to listen to them all. I am pretty
certain that your relative has been quoted by Lise
Pommois in her book: WINTER STORM. Also I think she quotes him in a book published by the town of Herrlisheim.
The location of other divisions on the flanks of the
12th Armored is probably written in WINTER STORM.
I will look into these issues.
Yours truly, Mike Woldenberg
geomike@buffalo.edu
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MikeWoldenberg
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posted 5/9/2010 2:35:09 PM
Originally posted by Guest:
Does anyone have any first-hand oral history of 12th ARMORED actions at Herrlisheim ? I am of the familie Bachmann aus Deutschland. I have wargamed this engagement through STEEL PANTHERS winSPWWII and it appears 12th ARMORED flanks were undefended. Is that true ?
Dear Sir,
I presume your relative fought with the German Army at Herrlisheim, and his name is: Erwin Bachmann. A brief
discussion of his personal experience at Herrlisheim is given in the book WINTER STORM by Lise Pommois.
On page 226 and 227 it is written: "Obersturmführer Erwin Bachmann, a liason officer from the 10th SS PD, captured 60 men and 12 Shermans and knocked out 12 other tanks by himself. " The paragraph also states that he recovered 20 German prisoners. He also captured four
Sherman tanks still intact. "Then Bachmann made his Panthers advance to the north exit of Herrlisheim and they knocked out two additional tanks. Bachmann received the Iron Cross and the Knight's Cross. "
Dr. Pommois has done a great deal of research in the archives and libraries and she has interviewed many soldiers from the American and German side. She has included many maps and between the maps and the text
you can learn the positions of the various units and when they were deployed. Also, there is a new book by Edward Monroe Jones: CROSSING THE ZORN. This book contains
many eyewitness accounts. I have not read the book yet, but it will be a valuable contribution to understanding the battle ih Herrlisheim.
In addition, you should consult the following documents on this website: Look at the column on the left:
DEATH OF AN AMERICAN COMBAT COMMAND.
also, go to BOOKS AND WRITTEN EXPERIENCES.
See especially, INITIAL ASSAULT ON HERRLISHEIM BY THE 56TH AIB AND THE 714TH TANK BATTALION. Also see the various battalion histories. They are all relevant.
You can reach Lise Pommois by email: lise.pommois@gmail.com
Yours truly, Mike Woldenberg
geomike@buffalo.edu
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